Friday night is kind of the cultural version of Sabbath. What's up guys? Welcome back to Five-M-M-Afatherhood. So Tricia reached out to us a couple times, I think, on Instagram. If she really, really wants to answer this question, it's a great question. We get it a lot. And I wanted to just, I told her, hey, we want to do an episode on this. Let's take, because it's going to take a little bit of time for us to tease this all the way out but she's asking about when to do the Sabbath when to do a Shabbat dinner in particular and she says my husband and I are going back and forth on what day we should pick we are going back and forth between week nights or Friday night he thinks doing Wednesday is better because we have less things during the

week. But I am stuck on Friday as a good regroup for the week. Do y'all have any insights or suggestions

for this? Thanks so much, Trisha. So love this question. I'm going to let Jeff, I'm going to let you

take a crack of this first and then I'll kind of follow up with some thoughts. But this is a, this is a really good question. Yeah. I mean, we've done, I would say first of all, we've done kind of a couple different things. And I think that's, that's, you know, I think you just have to think about the story of your family and all those different things. We were, you know, for the first couple years of us started practicing it, we were, uh, you know, um,

we had a very irregular life. I was traveling a lot. I mean, a regular schedule, traveling a lot, speaking, all different things. So we didn't just have like a day that wasn't normal, like a week day, which is not normal for most people. We also even had a season where we would change it every week. Now, I don't think that's ideal.

And that's why we don't do it anymore.

But I think, I think you just have to give yourself grace.

It's just like, man, am I even just like even... every week. Now, I don't think that's ideal. And that's why we don't do it anymore. But I think,

I think you just have to give yourself grace. It's just like, man, am I even just like,

even entering into the spirit of rest? Am I even just attempting? Am I trying? Am I trying to resist the culture of productivity? And like, that's what it's about. Just stay in the spirit of rest and Sabbath, and that's what I think 99% of it is. But then on the really practical side,

I think we just realized that like, man, consistency of day, first of all, gives our body kind of something to look forward to, our life something to look forward to. It feels a little bit more anger, a little more ritualistic. And then, yeah, and then I would say pick a day that works best for you, you know, like in for your family. What's the best day for your

family culture? And then what's the best day for your family's need for rest, right? Because that's

really what you're trying to craft backwards. And for us, Friday feels like that. We don't operate on a

super Monday through Friday, nine to five, but Fridays feel like a end of a week to us and a beginning

of a week to us at some level, depending on how you define it. It just feels like that's when it feels

most powerful, most necessary. Um, most, um, another one to two is like, what would I say is like,

feels the most, uh, um, in line with our culture's ability to let us do it. Does that make sense?

Like Friday night is kind of

the cultural version of Sabbath of like, you know, I go out, I go watch a movie, I go to a bar, I get a drink, I hang out, like Friday night, you know, shoes off, you know, kind of thing. Put your feet up. And so I think Sabbath is way more than that, but I think that allows us to even like you step into it easier. So I don't know if that's helpful, but yeah, what would you say,

Jeremy? Yeah. Yeah, this is definitely there's like, I think, Trisha, you have to think about this in different stages. And I like how Jeff's describing the stages their family went through. Every family that has entered into sort of a Sabbath has had to go through these stages. So the first stage,

I think, is, you know, kind of have to mirror where your family's at and then hold those

decisions with an open hand. So whatever you can do consistently, whatever does create that

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