explore and to make a lot of those internal heavy decisions about their life in a,

in a larger context.

What's up guys?

Welcome back to Five Minute Fatherhood.

We are now in part four of a six-part series on the skill of stage-based parenting.

We talked about the comforter stage, the coach stage. We just finished talking about the skill of stage-based parenting. We talked about the

comforter stage, the coach stage. We just finished talking about the counselor stage

last time. And now we're in the consultant phase. This is from ages 17 to 25. This is what

oftentimes feels like the scariest moment for parents, because this is when you will really see

what kids decide about the trajectory. And even when they do decide, it certainly doesn't mean

it's a forever decision, but you oftentimes see the consequences of whatever decisions

they're making. I'm sure they'll always be mixed.

And we've got a couple of kids in this stage right now. And as a family team, and the older

you get, especially as you get past 18, you guys are going to start to see our perspective on

parenting really diverge from, I think, what the modern Western perspective

on parenting is. The modern Western idea of parenting is basically the Nest version of

parenting where really there's not a lot of responsibility or clear pathways to what it means

for the family after about 18 years old. Usually the expectation from our culture

is that you have to sort of let your kids fly and just, you know, you're done, you know, you're really

done. I do not think you are ever done because of you're building a family and you're not just

raising chicks in a nest. And that's why that analogy really breaks

down at a stage like this. But I would say in terms of independence, this is probably the

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