They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

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I must admit I was a clown to be messing around, but that doesn't mean that you have to leave town. Hey, dude badders. Welcome to Bad Boy Running. We've got an absolute treat for you today. I've been wanting to get Mary on for ages, and I thought she was ignoring me, and I think probably was but maybe she didn't see the message and eventually the I don't know why she decided to come on. I'm as amazed as probably she will be by the end of this podcast. But if you don't know about Mary, the Mary was the fastest female runner in America. She went to Nike and just had a terrible time, should we say, under Salazar. Since then, though, she's actually done some incredible things, which is the main reason why we've gone on the podcast actually. She's started a running club called Atalanto, NYC, with some other runners who you may have heard of, people

like Alison Felix, and it seems to be revolutionizing the way in which club teams work.

So to tell us about that, welcome to podcast, Maricane!

Yay!

Thanks so much for having me.

And I will start off by saying, I am horrible at checking my Instagram messages.

And by that, I mean, like, I probably reply to like 1% of them because I just have this, like, day of panic where I'm like, oh, my God, all these poor nice people have reached out to me. And then I get overwhelmed and then I'm out. You know, I mean,

you guys probably see my grid on social. It's like one picture of my dog, picture of my boyfriend,

and then like really intense running comment and then nothing.

How many years? Because we, you know, we don't have to deal with, they just being overwhelmed by people wanting to contact.

Like how, how, what was your, because you've got, you've got 70,000 maybe or 60,000 or what was the growth of that like?

Well, there's certain triggers and how do you actually manage?

Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest trigger, of course, is just the near times piece.

I think overnight I had gained everybody.

The recent ritual podcast of definitely like spent like more of the spike. But I think in general, I'm just somebody who's very

curmudgeonly and I didn't get and you know,'m 25 so I'm I recognize that I'm young but like for

my generation I got a like phone that had internet capabilities very late I didn't get that

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