Hey, everybody, welcome. And thank you for listening to this episode of Marriage Therapy Radio.

My name is Zach Brittle here with Laura Heck. This is last call. If you're interested in the workshop that we have on February 9th and 10th, it's a great Valentine's Day gift, but you need to register yesterday, basically.

If you're interested in doing that, go ahead and stop the podcast right now. Go to Marigestherap Therapy Radio.com, click on the workshop box, and you can go ahead and register. There's still time. We'll get your materials out to you and we'll see you Friday night. If that's not your jam, there's all kinds of ways that you can stay connected. Don't forget that you can get a discount off the Escaply escape room boxes if you live in a major city. That's escapely.com.

You can use code MTR20, I think it is. The next handful of episodes will be us talking to

different folks focusing on different areas of expertise. We've got a conversation coming up around

ADHD, which I know is on a lot of people's minds. A couple of

new folks who are pioneering work today in couples therapy and folks who have been around forever.

It's going to be a good time. I'm really looking forward to learning a lot. I think you will too.

For now, Laura and I are talking about marital collusion. What does it mean to collude with one another

in a relationship, which we do sometimes passively, sometimes actively,

and how we can do it mainly more effectively. This is a very cool conversation. Stick around.

So why do you think you're not in a great mood?

It's actually really practical. I took my car in to get at service this morning and I got there.

They were like, oh, we don't work on these kinds of cars.

And it was all about what the dealer told me when I bought it. You take it to any one of these locations and you get it service. And then I didn't go to my usual place because I went to their place. And then when I got to their place, they were like, oh, we don't do that here. And I was like, I don't understand.

This seems like a simple, simple thing to tell people where to go.

So now I'm like mad and I want to like, you know, have a referendum on communication, that sort of thing.

If that was to happen, I would feel like it was a personal attack on me for, like,

that my time wasn't worthy enough or that I wasn't worthy or just I would get so pissed off that people were taking advantage of my time, that I wasn't important enough

to have the right information and whatever.

I don't know.

It runs deep.

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