This is kind of the way that we encourage parents to think about any adult gathering that

we want to integrate children into that is not designed for children.

What's up, guys? Welcome to another five-minute fatherhood. So there's a little thing that I've

been working out in the context of some gatherings we've been having in our house with kids, but I realized that

this is kind of a helpful framework just to think about. So I wanted to kind of run past you,

Jeff, and see what you think. So in the context of our gatherings we have in our house where we're spending time,

you know, praying, a teaching, we really love it when kids can be with their parents.

This is the same thing that will apply to worship services if you want your kids to be with you in a worship service. How do you

decide what events to bring your kids into when they're ready, when you're ready, and which

ones to get child care for? And so this is the way I think about it. So I want my kids to be with me as

much as possible. That's sort of my default. Unless there's some topic we I think about it. So I want my kids to be with me as much as possible.

That's sort of my default. If unless there's some topic we're talking about that's inappropriate

for kids, I would really rather than be with me, whether it's like a movie theater or a restaurant

or when I'm at work. But I have to be sensitive to the fact that kids fall into one of these three categories.

And that really is how I determine if they're ready for this event. Okay, so the first category is

pre-training. And that means when I say a child's in pre-training, that means that I just don't

believe they're ready to be trained to be in this environment.

You know, maybe a two-year-old in a three-hour movie, maybe it's not great idea to try to make them sit through that, right?

Yeah. So they're just not ready for it. Okay, that's fine. And so I get child care for that,

no big deal. Then there's, there's another category. They go from pre-training to

in-training. Now this is a really fun transition and as fathers I think we need to really enjoy

this. So that is okay, I now think that they could handle it. So let's say you got a you know,

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