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Hey, everybody, welcome.

And thank you for listening to this episode of Marriage Therapy Radio.

My name is Zach.

I'm usually here with Laura, but she is in Texas at a wedding or something.

And I was flying solo this week.

I had an interview scheduled with a couple.

They qualify as Instagram influencers.

They've got a new book coming out. And because of a calendar error, we had to push that interview,

and that'll be coming up later on. But it did make me wonder about this idea of being an influencer.

And I started thinking about couples in particular that have influenced me. Like, who could I get to

come on? Like, who do I want

to talk to? Who do I want to hear about how they made it work? And I thought of Steve and Elizabeth.

And Steve and Elizabeth are former clients of mine. We stopped working together many, many years ago.

They've stayed in touch with me and I with them. And I know that they sometimes listen to the

podcast. And I also know that they sometimes listen to the podcast.

And I also know that they've been through a lot.

They've been through a lot not just in their counseling experience,

but also in just their life both before and after.

And if anybody has formed a perspective on how relationships work,

it's these guys.

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