Ep 291 – Verbal JiuJitsu

Infants on Thrones

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.6 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2016

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Listener and fan of the show, Jake sits down with Tom and Kim Gustavsson to talk about his listener submitted essay titled, “Verbal JiuJitsu”. Kim’s company and website: http://accendeo.com/ “We must try to penetrate our most secret self, and examine our being from all sides. . . . And so, for the first time in my life perhaps (although I am supposed to meditate every day!), I took the lamp and, leaving the zone of everyday occupations and relationships where everything seems clear, I went down into my inmost self, to the deep abyss whence I feel dimly that my power of action emanates. But as I moved further and further away from the conventional certainties by which social life is superficially illuminated, I became aware that I was losing contact with myself. At each step of the descent a new person was disclosed within me of whose name I was no longer sure, and who no longer obeyed me. And when I had to stop my exploration because the path faded from beneath my steps, I found a bottomless abyss at my feet, and out of it came—arising I know not from where—the current which I dare to call my life.” – Teilhard de Chardin, Pierre. The Divine Milieu (New York: Harper & Row Publishers, Incorporated, 1960) p. 42

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0:00.0	This is infants on the wrongs.
0:04.0	The philosophies of men angled with humans.
0:08.0	We are the core. Listener,
0:15.0	Listener Esser.
0:17.0	Listener Esser. Welcome back to Infants on Thrones. My name's Tom Perry. Today I'm joined with my friend Jake who submitted a listener essay titled Verbal Jiu-Jitsu. And in this episode, Jake invited Kim Gustafson to also join in with us.
0:37.0	Kim is the principal of Ascendio, a company whose focus is improving methods of communication in the corporate sector.
0:43.4	So take it away Jake. Howdy y'all my name is Jake I'm a small town Utah dude that
0:49.2	grew up drinking from the Mormon fire hose for years I felt as if I was pretty big deal,
0:55.0	saved for the last days and all,
0:57.0	and one of the tougher members of a chosen generation.
1:00.0	Then they started saying the same thing about or two you x y and z kids.
1:06.0	That is why I quit paying tithing and quit going to church.
1:10.0	Okay, I'm kidding. My disaffection for Mormonism runs a little deeper than just that, but it does suck not to feel like a big deal anymore. I mean, if the coach just would have put me in, I bet I could throw a football over that mountain, right?
1:25.0	So on a serious note, one sediment I hear repeatedly in the podcast world
1:31.0	is that it's semi-impossible to have a productive conversation. the It wasn't until recent that I started applying a different paradigm to this question.
1:44.7	You see, I'm a safety professional. I spend my days engaged in heated conversation
1:49.3	about how to change behaviors, cultures, and sometimes standards.
1:53.7	I've always called this method of conversation with an opposing foe verbal jingitsu.
2:00.0	Not until a recent invite thought to apply this technique to the opposition of Mormonism.
2:05.6	So what do I mean by Jinjitsu?
2:07.8	Well, let's just start by unpacking the language.
2:10.8	Verbal, basically language.
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