Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. We're back here with the second half of this casual

discussion of high non-history. My guest once again is Professor Jeremy Murray from Cal State

University San Bernardino where he teaches Chinese history. Jeremy's one of the local

synologists here in Soquel and I'm lucky I was able to trick him into coming onto the CHP

to discuss this topic that he knows a thing or two about. Last time we got as far as the Ming

dynasty in the late 16th century we closed with a discussion of the Jesuits. This time I'd like

to focus on the Qing Republican and PRC eras. Let's continue on with the Qing takeover of high

non. They will push the borders of the Chinese empire out to its greatest extent. When they came down

to high non was the welcome mat rolled out or did they face resistance from the Lee and others.

There was a lot of resistance and we talked a little bit about this earlier about the

attempt to develop high non into a kind of bread basket. If you look at high non over

this long period of time one of the most common things you see is external designs on the

island to develop it and you keep hearing this sort of language of untapped potential and it's

a very colonial kind of a language. It's hard to avoid that word that it's really a kind of

extractive approach to the island and I think it's only natural that that is not going to be

especially popular especially when it's observed that this is not as much of a kind of

here-to-stay kind of development as it is a very very hasty sort of extractive approach.

And you see this especially because so much of what is sought after are these luxury goods

things like pearls, jade incense and some you know highly sought after agricultural goods and

precious metals and that kind of thing. And so there's a lot of resistance some of the Lee to use

that language some of the Lee assimilate into the coastal Han communities and trade with them.

Some of the Han for their part move into Lee communities and so we do see fluidity in there

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