They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running. Yes, it's the bad boy running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back. Baby, come back. But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

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Okay, Dubatter.

So this is a really interesting one this week.

We don't normally have do baders on as a general rule because, well, let's face it,

their achievements aren't usually things to shout about. In fact, lack of achievement is very much

a theme. But unfortunately recently, we have had a glut of success and we're all kind of quite flush away,

we're all quite surprised by it.

And so we thought it was worth actually bringing on two individuals who are very well known

in the Dabada community who have decided to break the mould and start setting a precedent

of winning things, which we're all very

very disappointed with but we thought this is absolutely perfect opportunity to bring

them on to find out what their secrets were in doing so and as I'd mentioned to

before being able to bring them on it also allows us to have one of the most click-baity titles that we've ever had. And I'm not saying that just because, you know, we wanted that title. We wanted you on because we genuinely wanted it. So welcome to the podcast, Lorna Spain and Richard McDowell. Yay! We all get to do it.

I don't think that was enthusiastic enough.

Can you do that again, please?

Way!

There we go.

That's perfect.

So, but this is going to be very unusual for a lot of debaters.

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