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The Dangerous History Podcast

Ep. 280: Don’t Be Neo-Neoconned! (Thoughts on the Dave Smith/Douglas Murray Debate)

The Dangerous History Podcast

CJ

Education, History, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.6647 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 231 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, CJ shares his thoughts on the meaning, significance, & fallout of the “debate” that took place a few weeks ago on the Joe Rogan Experience between Dave Smith & Douglas Murray, especially in regards to credentialism & the Cult of the “Expert,” as well as the phenomenon of the Neo-Neocons (next-generation Neoconservatives) such as Douglas Murray, James Lindsay, Konstantin Kisin, Jordan Peterson, & others who are currently on an ideological jihad to try to purge the current MAGA/Trumpian American Right of any libertarian & paleoconservative elements who might actually believe in the idea of “America First,” just as previous generations of Neocons did with earlier instances of grassroots, populist rightwing movements which had strong anti-interventionist & libertarian instincts.

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0:00.0

We got here because ideas do have consequences. Bad ideas have bad consequences. And even the best of intentions have unintended consequences. We need to know exactly what the philosophic ideas were that drove us to this point. Then, hopefully, reject them and decide on another set of intellectual parameters.

0:21.6

There is abundant evidence exposing those who drive our foreign policy, justifying preemptive war.

0:28.6

Those who scheme are proud of their achievements in usurping control over foreign policy.

0:33.6

These are the neoconservatives of recent fame.

0:36.6

Granted, they are talented and achieved a

0:39.9

political victory that all policymakers must admire. But can freedom and the republic survive this

0:47.0

takeover? That question should concern us. Neoconservatives are obviously in positions of influence

0:54.0

and are well-placed throughout our government and the media.

0:57.0

An apathetic Congress put up little resistance and abdicated its responsibility over foreign affairs.

1:03.0

The electorate was easily influenced to join in the patriotic fervor supporting the military adventurism advocated by the neoconservatives. The numbers of those who still

1:12.3

hope for truly limited government diminished and had their concerns ignored these past 22 months

1:18.0

during the aftermath of 9-11. Members of Congress were easily influenced to publicly support

1:23.5

any domestic policy or foreign military adventure that was supposed to help reduce the threat

1:29.7

of a terrorist attack.

1:31.7

Believers in limited government were harder to find.

1:35.1

None of this happened by accident or coincidence.

1:39.1

Precise philosophic ideas prompted certain individuals to gain influence to implement these

1:43.7

plans.

1:44.8

The neoconservatives, a name they gave themselves,

1:48.0

diligently worked their way into positions of power and influence.

1:51.6

They documented their goals, strategy, and moral justification for all they hope to accomplish.

1:57.5

Above all else, they were not and are not conservatives dedicated to limited constitutional government.

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