And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

You may know Mary Katherine Han is the provocative, often funny conservative commentator on CNN,

or as a conservative writer.

This week she was also a fellow at the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago, and

we sat down to talk about conservatism in the era of Trump and the upcoming midterm election.

Mary Katherine Han, so good to see you here and at the Institute of Politics.

Thank you for having me.

We're glad to have you.

I know you've actually written about the need for divergent voices on campuses, and specifically

you wrote about something that happened here at the Institute of Politics.

So it's good to have you here so you can witness for yourself what goes on.

Yes, I mean, I'm happy to be the divergent voice.

I'm happy to be among the divergent voices.

Yes, we'll say a month.

I don't want you to shoulder that burden all by yourself.

So I was interested to learn that you are from a long line of journalists as a former

journalist that caught my eye.

Yes, I'm a fourth generation newspaper journalist specifically.

My great...

Do you want to explain what newspapers are?

I know.

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