Hey, everybody, welcome. Thank you for listening to this episode of Marriage Therapy Radio. My name is Zach Brittle. I'm here with Laura Heck. Happy birthday to me. This episode comes out on June 13th. That's my 50th birthday. I'm flying to Korea today all by myself. It should be the shortest day of my life. I had to check with my mom to see what time I was born,

but I think once I cross the international date line, I'll have officially the shortest day of my

50 years. So we got a really cool present this weekend on the Sunday service. My buddy, DJ Dave,

played a few of my songs, even gave me a little shout on on the radio. It was a highlight.

If you want to link to that show, let me know. I'm happy to send it to you. This episode,

we kind of pick up where we left off last episode. We did this thing in Germany where we

talking about what's good enough. And I was like, well, what is good enough and how do we make

it better? So today we go through a model that I use with clients, specifically around how to do intimacy and do it in a way that helps you sort of measure it and maybe improve it over time.

I think having meaningful orientation about what better means is part of getting better. That's what we try to provide today.

Oh, and one more thing that happens in this episode is we get a pretty significant announcement

from Laura.

So perk up your ears and see if there's anything in what she's bringing to the table that

you can support or be a part of.

We are, yeah, it's really cool to hear her talk about what's going on and to ask for your help, hope that you can offer it. And for now,

I'll just say, yeah, thanks for listening. This is a very cool conversation. Stick around.

I can take myself dancing.

Do you remember the first time you heard of the flower song by Miley Cyrus?

I know I heard of it about a dozen times before I heard it.

Hmm.

Yeah.

It was when we did an interview and she was like, what do you think?

Do you think some people are just better off by themselves?

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