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🗓️ 1 April 2024
⏱️ 115 minutes
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Dr. Pak is back on Iron Culture for his third appearance! This time, he sat down with Omar and Dr. Helms for a meta-discussion on the challenges of science communication. How do you maintain credibility when you’re using social media as a science communication tool? This challenge has changed, but it isn’t new by any means. The “Sagan effect” describes the well-researched phenomenon by which the scientific community perceives other scientists who get more media exposure as less legitimate scientists - despite the fact that, on average, scientists more active in science communication typically publish slightly more often and with a higher impact than scientists less active in science communication. In modern times, however, the incentive structures are different, and many instances of expert creep, “selling out” and pseudoscience have been propagated on social media by some academics or members of the medical community. In this episode we discuss the challenges of attempting to communicate science without being criticized for doing so, how this has and hasn’t changed over time, and the instances of gatekeeping which are ultimately counterproductive to increasing scientific literacy.
00:00 Introduction to Helms Haven/Deep
04:57 The Dr Pak Trilogy and The Grizzly at the Raskol booth at the Arnold
16:13 The Grizzly backstory
32:52 Pak’s experience with The Grizzly
42:43 The academic and the memer
52:18 The scientific community and public scientists
Martinez-Conde 2016 Has Contemporary Academia Outgrown the Carl Sagan Effect? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26888919/
1:13:53 Getting the reps in within the science communication game and being critiqued
1:35:00 Academics and science communicators across social media platforms
1:42:35 The closing pieces to this monster episode
Where to find Dr. Pak
Instagram: @dr__pak https://www.instagram.com/dr__pak/
YouTube: @Dr__Pak https://www.youtube.com/@Dr__Pak
Website: https://www.drpak.com/
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0:00.0 | Eric. |
0:02.3 | Omar. |
0:04.0 | You know, they released a movie recently, and do you know what it was called? |
0:09.6 | I don't. |
0:11.0 | So, there is a Patrick Swayze movie, either from 1989 or 1990. Are you familiar with the name of it? |
0:19.4 | Roadhouse. Roadhouse, thank you. And did you know they released, Pack, did you see the trailer for it? |
0:25.6 | Now a remake of it starring Jake Gillen Hall and Connmer Gregor. You saw that? |
0:30.6 | I did. |
0:31.6 | Okay, thank you, Dr. Pack. |
0:33.6 | Eric, this wouldn't surprise you, and I'm not saying it's curious, the timeline, but we did a deep |
0:39.2 | dive into some Trex lore last episode, where it was revealed in all seriousness. He was a |
0:44.6 | bouncer. Sometimes he had to crack some skulls. And we try to figure out if he was a cooler, |
0:49.8 | if he was the person there to, you know, make sure everything just calmed down, nothing escalated, |
0:54.7 | or he was the person when shit kicked off and they needed some reliable to crack those skulls, |
0:59.4 | he was the person. |
1:00.3 | And I just find it weird, Eric, that they did this remake at the exact same time. |
1:06.1 | You know, they made it within like, what, a day and then then released it just as we're sharing this |
1:10.9 | trex lore yeah and we did find out he was a cooler and he also shared with us that |
1:19.5 | just because you are coming into a situation trying to cool things down doesn't mean that |
1:24.3 | everyone else might consent the cooling down and while the cooler |
1:28.4 | isn't the one who typically cracks heads he mentioned that sometimes and one time specifically |
1:33.6 | you do get someone trying to crack your head and we learned perhaps the real reason why his |
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