They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around, but that doesn't mean that you have to leave

town.

Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, hello, Jenny Raismithead.

Hello, David Hellard.

I feel things are changing quite dramatically. I mean, listeners will have

experience a quite dramatic change, but the amount of tech that we now have in front of us

that we're using as opposed to just to get a set of headphones. Like when I look at you, it looks as

though professional people who are recording podcasts, like professional... Except the haircut. Except there's no haircuts. You're like, why have you homeless people? We haven't got hair and makeup here. That's the next step. But the do bad as they're at home for the videos. I've bought one of those light things. I haven't plugged it in. One of those light things as well. Look, and I don't know whether, can you, listeners, does this actually make much of, well, viewers, I should say, listeners won't be able to tell this, but viewers, does this make much of a difference? Oh, it does actually. Oh, it does. That's cute. Oh, you look beautiful. Like, when like that. I want to be dramatic and want to make a dramatic point, I leave it off.

And when I...

Yeah, but do bad as we're, as you've noticed by now, we've been splitting up the episodes, partly because we...

Well, loads of reasons. We've probably explained it already, but mainly because we're worried that we're not for everyone necessarily and take a bit of a custom getting used to. And so maybe if we allow people who are listening to interviews, to just listen to interviews first, then ease them into the weirdness and the creep.

Our boy running. But we had the Beth Potter episode without you, Jody.

I'm sorry we couldn't leave that up.

You were rushing to get that one out, and so I think it was,

I think you had to get that done quickly.

But even though you rushed to get it out, we still weren't the first.

Like that was an incredible competitive podcast releasing there to try and get,

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