And so if you find that that's happening, it's important to, in a calm moment, to sort of level up above the fighting and bickering and say, hey, can we talk about what's been going on?

What's up, guys? Jeff and Jeremy here, another episode of Five Minute Fatherhood. You could call this a fun topic or not a fun topic, depending on where this hits you.

We wanted to chat about something that's more pertinent in a lot of people's lives because we're having more friction and more time together. And that is just bickering with your spouse. And we say bickering kind of as the phrase of like not full on blown out drag out fights, but just like the kind of the every single day just annoyance with each other, trying to, you know, poor communication, miscommunication.

And that tends to wear. I will say not to take this overly serious. I don't know if you've seen this research already, Jeremy, but there's already scholarly research and data coming out

of China, who's, you know, three, four months ahead of us in the crisis, that their divorce rates have

skyrocketed. So, which is fascinating to me. And basically what the articles are just saying, like,

you know, these people are now all of a sudden together more than they've ever been

together. And for lack of better term, they don't like each other. Or, or the disenchantment

of what they thought marriages should be is, is just like blowing up, right?

Yeah.

And that's, it's super tragic and sad. You know, I think a lot of people actually, the joke at the beginning was the opposite, right? You're going to, you know, have more sex and more time together and all that stuff. And sadly, it's the opposite. The reality is taking on the opposite. That this is challenging, okay? Yeah. So what would you say, Jeremy?

I don't really have any tips there because I have no idea.

I'm trying to figure it out myself.

But what would you say, Jeremy? I don't really

have any tips there because I have no idea. I'm trying to figure it out myself. What would, what would you

say of like, yeah, when you're when you're together a little bit more than usual, when, how do you

walk through that, the small bickering and arguments and conflicts? Well, one thing I think is just to have your, the expectations should be

as believers, we know that the reason that we get married isn't to find ultimate happiness.

It's really to become holy. It's holiness. It's to really, to really knock off the rough edges

of each other as we become one. And so what we're experiencing right now isn't like some terrible event that is anti-marriage

and that when we get back to living our own individual lives, we're back into the real design

for marriage. A lot of us are experiencing is the real design for marriage. It's like what, it's like, it's the cage match. It's like what happens when the two of us get stuck together and we can't avoid each other. But it's disorienting because it's not our expectation. That's right. Yeah. And so, and so I would just say the first thing is to embrace this, the difficulty. And to understand that it's not, it's not something that's being done to you. It's something that you guys decided to make a covenant to stay together no matter what. And now that's going to get tested through a lot of interaction and a lot of being in proximity and all the frustrations that can come out of that.

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