Ep. 265 - Are Your Supplements Contaminated?

Iron Culture

The MASS Crew

Sports & Recreation, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 827 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2024

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

As you know, Iron Culture reps the neutral to positive gang around these parts. While most new supplements released to the market don’t pan out as effective, some do. So, if preliminary data supports the potential efficacy of a new supplement, why not try it out? The only potential downside of trying a new supplement is wasted money, right? Not so fast. In this episode the Erics duo explains why the typical supplement consumer is not accurately weighing the true potential cost of supplement investment. Unbelievably, some data indicates 10-30% of all supplements are contaminated - you heard that right. Could that be true? If so, why and how is this happening and what can you do about it? Join us to find out!

00:00 A successful intro

07:40 Supplements and the Helms algorithm for recommendations

https://massresearchreview.com/

Trexler 2014 Metabolic adaptation to weight loss: implications for the athlete https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24571926/

14:41 Breaking down Trexler’s supplement tier list

26:26 Why caffeine is not a Tier 1 supplement

Gardiner 2023 The effect of caffeine on subsequent sleep: A systematic review and meta-analysis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36870101/

35:33 Weighing up the pros and cons of supplements and issues in sports

Burke 2023 The Effects of Creatine Supplementation Combined with Resistance Training on Regional Measures of Muscle Hypertrophy: A Systematic Review with Meta-Analysis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37432300/

Lauritzen 2022 Dietary Supplements as a Major Cause of Anti-doping Rule Violations https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35399596/

Geyer 2004 Analysis of non-hormonal nutritional supplements for anabolic-androgenic steroids - results of an international study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14986195/

Yun 2017 Monitoring of the amphetamine-like substances in dietary supplements by LC-PDA and LC-MS/MS https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30263651/

Matthews 2018 Prohibited Contaminants in Dietary Supplements https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28850291/

Jagim 2023 Prevalence of adulteration in dietary supplements and recommendations for safe supplement practices in sport https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37841887/

Tucker 2018 Unapproved Pharmaceutical Ingredients Included in Dietary Supplements Associated With US Food and Drug Administration Warnings https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30646238/

1:05:37 How banned substances can negatively affect you and where to read the FREE cover story

https://www.strongerbyscience.com/new-supplement/

1:13:33 The concept of 3^rd party testing and licensing

https://examine.com/

1:24:26 Final thoughts on the topic

1:32:17 Closing out this double Eric episode

Transcript

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0:00.0	Drexler
0:02.0	Helms
0:04.0	That might have been the first time that we've successfully done that intro and
0:08.0	something that feels iron culture-esque without us bumbling over our own shoe laces so I'll count that as a win
0:16.0	I fully expect that our ratings and the number of shares we get on this episode will be drastically improved
0:21.8	because of that is the little things that count folks um so yeah the first thing i want to
0:27.0	address is uh i went back and i actually listened to the episode that was you at omar where
0:33.0	you talked about protein and um maybe i shouldn't have because I was a little disappointed. Well,
0:41.8	you know, when I came back on and, you know, I talked about how we couldn't be driven apart,
0:48.5	how, you know, we were on the same page and, and you mentioned hey maybe don't go listen to that episode
0:55.0	i did what any person would do when they're told not to listen to something i listened to it right
1:00.4	and um yeah the uh i guess the the the framing of my biases towards protein i uh i felt they I felt they weren't, I felt they weren't fair.
1:12.5	I feel like I've changed my mind over time. I feel like I've evolved as a human.
1:16.2	And, um, are you, um, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. This has caught me by surprise.
1:24.6	Are you contesting the shadowyy nefarious nature of all your
1:29.3	conflicts of interest or is it just the other part? Well, it is true. Omar actually alluded to this
1:35.8	that I am an unpaid and also surprisingly unsolicited scientific board member for elemental
1:43.0	formulations.
1:48.5	It's almost like Ben Escrow feels like he knows what he's doing and he doesn't need to ask me about that.
1:50.1	But yeah, I am not only an unpaid, unsolicited and really non-contributing member of elemental
1:57.5	formulations, but I also do... Well, I guess you said it wasn't shadowy.
2:02.8	You said it was more just that I get stuck in my ways.
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