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I'm Elizabeth Reese. I'm Marjorie Punit. This is the nest, our mini-sode that's all about the delightful and delicious things that make our homes just where we want to be.

And we've been having these discussions, which are going to continue about the book, What Happened to You, Conversations on Trauma, Resilience and Healing by Dr. Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey.

And it is just such an eye-opening book.

And that got Marjorie thinking about other books that we have read throughout time that have made us go, oh, my gosh, we're looking at the world differently, looking at ourselves

differently and moving forward differently.

So you've got a couple of recommendations, and so do I.

Yeah, just a quick thought on a man named Dr. Les Carter.

He was really a wonderful resource for me in the early 2000s.

We used to have him on once a month on our morning show on My Talk 107-1,

and we would just talk about a lot of different issues.

He's a family therapist.

But one of the books that came out in 2004 was called The Anger Trap, Free Yourself

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