They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

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Hello, Jenny Rainsford.

Hello, David Hellard.

Welcome to Bad Boy Running, people.

We have got, oh, this episode, Kerry Ann Paid.

She's a swimmer, but she's a really good swimmer,

and she doesn't mind the fact that we are completely ignorant towards swimming

and ask some of the worst questions she's there. She's at that.

I think she's good about it, I mean she? She was great about it. She was great about it. I think,

you know, when you're working at that kind of level, she must have been on so many podcasts where

they're asking like all these beautifully nuanced questions that go to the heart of her knowledge

that allows her to,

you know, to share what happens at the cutting edge of sport. And then we're asking questions like,

uh, butterfly. Oh, are people that do butterfly nutcases? Like, why would someone do that?

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