Ep. 2604 Is the U.S. Headed for Breakup (in the Long Run)?
The Tom Woods Show
Tom Woods
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🗓️ 8 February 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
The Mises Institute's Ryan McMaken believes that in the long run a breakup of the United States is inevitable. He also argues: whatever short-term victories we may celebrate today, we still need to keep an eye on the long run and the issues we need to face there.
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| 0:00.0 | Get ready to take a flamethrower to the official narrative and learn what the elites don't want you to know. |
| 0:08.8 | You're listening to The Tom Woods Show. |
| 0:18.7 | Hey everybody, Tom Woods here. It's episode 26004 of the tom woods show we got with us ryan mcmaken |
| 0:24.6 | executive editor at the meez's institute and i don't even know where to begin talking to ryan |
| 0:30.3 | but you know the guy writes an article every 28 seconds so he's always got something interesting |
| 0:34.9 | you can talk to him about but he has one on secession. And these days, nowadays, certainly on the right wing, for the most part, the idea of |
| 0:43.6 | secession is probably, you know, let's say at a low ebb, because the feeling is we won and we're |
| 0:51.1 | going to get our way and we want the whole ball of wax so they're not thinking this way. |
| 0:56.1 | But as Ryan said in the portion of this episode, we didn't have the record button pressed for. |
| 1:01.5 | We were just bantering, which was probably the best part. |
| 1:04.3 | We should have just pressed record and started the bantering. |
| 1:06.9 | But he said, you know, we have to think about, I'm going to tell me what you said, Ryan. |
| 1:14.1 | We have to think about the long term as well as the short term. |
| 1:19.6 | So in the short term, if Trump wants to close down the Department of Education, we should support that. |
| 1:25.0 | But we also need to think about not just what's going on in the next 24 hours, but what's going on in the next 24 years. |
| 1:29.3 | Where is this ship ultimately heading? And so we do still need to think about big, big questions and not just the smaller questions of the day, which I do indeed |
| 1:34.8 | talk about on this program, but it is important to keep our eye on the ball, the giant ball of |
| 1:40.6 | important events and important big, big, big ideas. |
| 1:45.6 | So, Ryan, welcome back. |
| 1:47.1 | It's great to be with you, Tom. |
| 1:53.8 | All right, so talk to me about your article on secession that seems like a bolt out of nowhere in the middle of all the congratulatory stuff. |
| 1:56.5 | And I say, by the way, the way the permanent bureaucracy has gotten whiplash by everything going on in Washington right now does have me happy, but it isn't the permanent solution. |
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