What's up everybody? This is the Betray, the addicted, and the expert. My name is Brannon and I am the expert.

And I'm Ashland and I was the portrayed.

And I'm Kobe, the recovering addict.

What you're gonna get is three unique perspectives on recovery

and tools for hope and healing.

So let's talk about overcoming isolation.

Really interesting things are happening is we're building this platform.

We were just talking about this.

What we're noticing is we're getting a lot of people listening to our content really liking what we're doing

but not a ton of people sharing our content and I think it's pretty obvious why.

There might be a few obvious reasons.

The name of our podcast is the Betrayed, the addicted, and the expert.

We talk about sex addiction.

And we talk about relationship issues and problems and you know people aren't that

eager to jump all over social media and Facebook and say hey this is what I follow and

yeah and so but but that's reflective of a bigger issue in recovery, both from betrayal and from addiction.

And you guys are the the pros on not being isolated with your

problem you're definitely out there don't say that because people are like

annoying we lived in isolation for most of our marriage.

Okay right and so now you're out with it right People know you as this couple who's worked through a lot of things.

And so there are so many people, like you say, Ashley,

you lived in isolation for a long time right and

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