I had this conversation with Michael my CEO a couple weeks ago.

I've been always pushing the idea of inclusivity.

I want to be inclusive and our decision making and our planning.

I'm actually stepping away from that for next year and that might sound like

unpopular decision but what I found is inclusivity is also slow as hell so it means we need to talk about a whole bunch of shit all the time.

Most of the time we're still doing it anyway. We found based on some of the decisions and the meetings we've had.

And we could have probably gotten more done if we just went ahead and do it and then

mess it up and then just get back on it and try something else.

So we're going to run with experimentation first instead of inclusivity next year to like if it's a good idea show me

instead of let's talk about it and then write up a small business case, like effort and resources and outcome.

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All right, so you are in for a treat with this episode.

We've got Kevin Beef Beefink, who is the

CEO for Funlytics. He's Dutch. He actually has moved his family from the

Netherlands over to Canada to operate the business. He used to run his own

company. He was the CEO of a company up actually then hiring him as his CEO. So he's kind of been a CEO before,

run his own company for seven or eight years. He's a father of four kids. Interestingly enough,

he and his wife had split up quite early on when they had a couple of young kids and then a couple years later after being split up in the marriage they were both swiping right on tinder and they both swiped right on each other and reconnected because they saw each other on tinder and that was it happily ever after ever since so young marriage and successful family now and successful in business talks a lot about being a VC-funded company right now

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