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Iron Culture

Ep. 247 - A Tale of Two Bodybuilders

Iron Culture

The MASS Crew

Sports & Recreation, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 827 Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2023

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

This episode almost didn’t happen. With Omar away, the Erics left to figure out how to do an episode of Iron Culture on their own, and nearly got stuck waiting forever for someone to say “Eric.” But, cooler heads prevailed and they found their way into a thoughtful, introspective, and nostalgic conversation. While both Trexler and Helms ended up taking very similar paths in life when you look at the outcome - competitive bodybuilders with PhDs in exercise-related fields who communicate science - their motivations and perspectives are actually quite unique. In this episode, you’ll learn how someone can find themself competing in the wacky sport/art we call bodybuilding, and what that experience can become, in terms of a cathartic outlet, a personal identity, a career, or even a science experiment. The meaning, in something as odd as flexing in posing trunks on stage, can be quite impactful, and quite personal. So tune in to this episode to learn about the personal history of and the meaning found in both Erics’ competitive journeys.

00:00 The Erics’ introduction to bodybuilding and their newbie gains

07:22 Choosing the natural route and closing the door on prohormones and steroids

20:17 Trexler’s motivation to compete

27:57 Helms’ experience with sports and getting bitten by the iron bug

37:31 Helms’ initial obsession with bodybuilding and the turning point

46:09 Helms’ academic journey

Kalm 2005 They starved so that others be better fed: remembering Ancel Keys and the Minnesota experiment https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15930436/

59:35 The art, culture, and community of natural bodybuilding

Kind 2023 Is bodybuilding a sport? https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00948705.2023.2234978

1:07:53 The voice of insecurity and believing what is actually possible

1:18:49 What’s next for both Erics

1:30:47 Closing out the episode with some imagery

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh man, this is weird. No one's going to actually say Eric. Yeah, should we just talk to start the thing? I mean, I mean, right now there's probably some people who already stopped listening because they thought there was an error in download in the podcast. So I think we, I think we have to. Yeah, yeah. I would just say let's get into it. Okay.

0:21.6

So I'm Eric and I'm here with Eric and I'm also here with one of the newest WNBF pros.

0:28.6

So first of all, on behalf of the Iron Culture audience, Trex Nation and the Trex Army, I want to extend

0:35.6

a sincere congratulations to you.

0:38.3

It means possibly more than I can put into words, man. Thank you so much. It's been a wild ride,

0:44.3

and it's still sinking in, and I suspect it'll take me, to be honest, like months, if not years, to sink it.

0:52.3

Yeah. So walk us through it.

0:55.5

I mean, this was the culmination of decades of effort, right?

1:00.6

Decades?

1:02.0

Yeah.

1:02.9

So not quite decades, but the better part of two decades.

1:06.5

So I have been lifting for 19 years.

1:10.3

And when I first got into lifting, it was not for necessarily the purpose of competitive

1:15.5

bodybuilding, but definitely to get as big and strong as I could.

1:19.1

And I had a pretty strong emotional attachment to it.

1:21.8

But real quickly, I found that the outlet became like, well, let me find some way to drive this with some kind of competitive and goal-oriented focus that was external.

1:35.4

So that was 2004 when I started lifting.

1:41.1

Okay.

1:41.5

So 19 years of lifting and then 2000, I would say probably the very beginning or midstage

1:47.3

at 2005.

1:48.6

Actually, no, I remember now.

1:50.7

2006, I've been a fan of bodybuilding, but broader.

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