What's up, guys? The other episode of Five Minute Fatherhood coming live from Fort Thomas,

not Cincinnati, but both as well. Here in the same room, me and Jeremy. So today's topic

is a fun one, interesting one. This is a phrase a lot of people say, right? This one actually

annoys me with toddlers. And then you probably even get it right now, having people at this age,

in the home and also out of the home. And that's that phrase where people say, oh, like, if something, it's usually, they're almost trying to pull you down. Usually like when something's going good, then they usually say, oh, just wait until they're teenagers, right? Or just wait until they're this. And first of all, don't ever say that. Don't be that person that says that in public. That's just like, why, why say that? And second of all, this comes specifically from Alex Kaufman, who mentions that phrase said, just wait until their teenagers. She says, I hear this all the time and refuse to accept that struggle as inevitable. Please talk about how this doesn't need to be inevitable strategy, approach, expectation, et cetera. Now, you guys have walked through this. So what would you say to that

real quick of like that, that phrase? Did you hear that? How do you make sure you mitigate against

that? Because I know for us, when I hear that, it is hard because you don't feel like you have a bunch of ammo in the gun when you're a toddler parent of like, well, no, they're not going to be like that, but I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, you're like,

you want to be humble about it. But I feel like

there is, there is a, it's a, it's a, it's a really bad

narrative that

almost self-fulfills. That's right. Right. Like if you do believe that, then that probably was

showing when they were actually tweens and toddlers. You know, there's like this weird narrative like,

oh, these are the good years. Those won't be stuff like that. So how do you guys navigate that? I mean, I could not wait for my kids to become teenagers. And so I was like, yeah, I want my kids. I love that stage. The reason that

we have such a problem with this, you guys, is that we have designed a culture that sets up kids

for failure at their most vulnerable point in their, in their development. Yeah. And so,

so there is a predictable problem

and you do and sort of Alex um is asking for specific strategies um there's a couple that are

very costly Alex but I I just I knew that as we were creeping up to these these ages it was

critical okay so my first strategy that I tell every family is when your kids are 12 to 15 years old,

they are super vulnerable.

Yeah.

And I, like, we sent our kids out to public school in, you know, the kindergarten to fifth grade.

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