Hey there, I'm Drew and you are listening to or watching the anxious truth.

The podcast that covers all things anxiety, anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery.

So if you're struggling with problems like panic disorder, agoraphobia, OCD or health anxiety,

while you've come to the right place and I'm glad you're here. Today I'm joined by two special

guests, two OCD specialists from the state of California, my friends Lauren Rosen and Kelly

Frankier here. We're going to talk about the wide spectrum of exposure work that you can do

from completely on your own to working with a qualified therapist and everything in between.

So let's get started on that right now.

Hello everybody, welcome back to the anxious truth. This is podcast episode number 245

recorded in February of 2023. I am Drew Linsolata, creator and host of the anxious truth.

If this is your first time listening to the podcast or stumbling into the YouTube channel,

I'm glad you're here. I hope you find it helpful. And if you're a returning viewer or a returning

listener, welcome back. Of course, I'm glad you're here. So today we are joined by OCD therapists,

Lauren Rosen and Kelly Frankie, both practicing in California, both people I am proud to call my friends.

And we got together to have a discussion about the wide range of options that people have

when doing exposure and especially ERP work for OCD, whether you're working completely on your own

because you have no access to a qualified professional for whatever reason or you're sort of

combining things. You may be using books, maybe using social media content all the way to the

other side of the spectrum where you are working with a trained OCD specialist, a licensed professional.

And we want to look at the pros and cons of all of those things and how they sort of fit together.

And more than anything else, we want to make sure that you know that even if you're having a hard

time finding qualified professional help, you are not doomed. There are things that you can do

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