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Iron Culture

Ep. 245 - Is BMI Useless?

Iron Culture

The MASS Crew

Sports & Recreation, Health & Fitness

4.8827 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2023

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

It’s Eric-ception folks. Today, we put to bed two controversies. Not only the controversy as to whether or not Eric Trexler is vat-grown, as he seems to have at least SOME pop-culture knowledge, but also the controversy of whether or not Eric Trexler and Eric Helms are actually the same person. The last two episodes renewed this conspiracy theory due to the occurrence of the “new” host Eric Trexler being on the last two episodes, while Eric Helms conveniently could not be on at the same time. Well folks, this episode, both Erics are here, and boy do they deliver.

Dr. Trexler does a deep dive on the topic of BMI, which has come under substantial fire in recent times due to its shortcomings as a useful clinical metric. But should we abandon it completely? What can BMI tell us? What can’t it tell us? And, how should it be used, if at all, moving forward? And, where do we find the middle ground between advocacy and scientific accuracy? Tune in to find out!

00:00 Introduction to the holy trifecta and Eric’s return

21:20 The background of BMI and metabolically healthy obesity

https://massresearchreview.com/

Marcus 2023 Metabolically Healthy Obesity Is a Misnomer: Components of the Metabolic Syndrome Linearly Increase with BMI as a Function of Age and Gender https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37237531/

40:00 The value of this research from a sociological lens

46:43 Limitations and criticisms of BMI

Xu 2018 Association of Obesity With Mortality Over 24 Years of Weight History: Findings From the Framingham Heart Study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30646366/

Iron Culture Ep. 146- What The Fitness Industry Gets Wrong About The Obesity Epidemic  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfAbKeiAuII

1:04:55 Goal orientation: changing health behaviours vs reducing BMI

Oscarsson 2020 A large-scale experiment on New Year's resolutions: Approach-oriented goals are more successful than avoidance-oriented goals https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33296385/

1:25:36 Closing out another monster episode

Omar @omarisuf https://www.instagram.com/omarisuf/ www.raskolapparel.com

Helms @helms3dmj https://www.instagram.com/helms3dmj/ https://3dmusclejourney.com/ 

Trexler @trexlerfitness https://www.instagram.com/trexlerfitness/ https://trexlerfitness.com/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Erics

0:02.7

Omar

0:05.3

We're gonna work on that synchronicity

0:08.7

It was so close

0:10.1

Okay

0:10.5

I sensed it

0:11.7

The erics have multiplied

0:13.4

I found out Helms

0:15.4

An astonishing fact in the last episode

0:17.5

I don't know if you had a chance to listen to it

0:19.4

I've definitely listened to it.

0:22.5

I've listened to it multiple times. And I mean, is it a fact or is it just theory at this point?

0:30.1

Yeah. Yeah. It's something. It's a statement. I will say that there was a shocking truth that Trexler dropped on me. So I went over,

0:39.7

let's call it, the Trexler birth theory, as it's known in the community. And that is that he was

0:44.7

born and grown in a vat. And his actual biological age is five years old. We needed someone

0:50.3

that had no collateral negative associations with it because we're both shock jocks myself and

0:55.9

helms so rumored of that he's pristine super knowledgeable highly effective as we're going to read

1:01.9

the common science communicators um and then i said hey because someone said all we needy now is a third

1:08.4

eric right for the trifecta bud Bud, Omar, I said, I agree.

1:11.5

And Trexler said, I'm not even kidding you, Omar.

1:14.1

I know so many erics in the exercise science field.

1:18.1

And I'm just wondering, how many erics are there out there?

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