You're listening to Reading Glasses, a show about book culture and literary life designed

to help you read better.

I'm author and book devourer, Mallory Mara, and I'm Bria Grant, filmmaker and e-reader.

And this episode, well first of all, we're together, wow, in person, Sean's not here though,

but it's, but birthday is, birthday is here, which is basically just Sean, Sean and dog

form.

I don't know what that means, I'm sorry, Sean, I don't know what that means.

And this episode, we've talked so much about bookish dating, but you know, we haven't talked

about what it's like to date someone who isn't a reader.

Yes.

We've talked about solo reading, reading with your partner, but what about when you're

in a relationship and that person doesn't read?

Doesn't read.

As I just say, actively hates books.

We aren't getting that far into it, but if they're just not a reader.

Yeah, is it good?

Is it bad?

I'm gonna talk about it, but first, Bria, what are you reading?

I am reading a book and you have read some of his stuff before.

He's fucking incredible.

I've had this book on my list for a long time because it was recommended to me, but also

it has one of the greatest titles of any essay book.

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