Hey, everybody, welcome. Thank you for listening to this episode of Marriage Therapy Radio.

My name is Zach. I'm here with Laura. Right this second, it's Halloween. Tomorrow is November 1st,

the day this podcast comes out. Halloween is my daughter's birthday. She turned 16. Tomorrow will be the

last time that I drive her to school, which I'm kind of sad about.

But also I'm excited. I'm excited to be entering a new phase. And in this episode, we talk a little bit about that. We talk a little bit about the skill of empathy, which is a topic I'm learning a lot about, although I'm learning about it in a very odd way, including trying to give my daughter a birthday present that she didn't like. Here's the short version.

I am learning a lot about exactly what I think and what I feel. It's a very good skill. It's a very

good skill to have as you try to be in relationship with other people, but it is not empathy.

Empathy is learning about how other people think

and how other people feel. And I'm having some humbling lessons about that, including today,

but also leading up to the recording of this podcast, which was last week. I think it's a good one.

We wander around just a little bit. As always, we latch on to something that I hope will be

meaningful to you.

This is a very cool conversation.

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