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Alright what is up everybody got a fun one a gym to my right as per usual these days

gym always good to have you here across from us virtually we have Jeb Burton now you if

you're if you're into racing if you're into NASCAR that's probably a very very familiar

name a very storied family history it's a family affair in in the Burton world so that's

probably like I said that's that's not one you haven't heard before across from us also

we have Mike Herman who works with Jeb now Jeb is NASCAR driver Mike is a NASCAR

spotter so today together collectively we're going to talk about NASCAR in general and

how cool it is and some of its intricacies we're going to talk about a little bit about

Jeb story in the racing world and also that that spotter spotter driver relationship

because I think a lot of times when people think about racing gym optics or see how we've

an optics into this thing I like it I yeah optics you're tracking there's a pond for

you might not be the first thing a person thinks of but these guys are using them at times

so we got a lot of fun stuff to talk about today so gentlemen welcome it is awesome to

have you here yeah man thanks for thanks for having me and Mike me and Mike actually this

is our first year working together me and him have been around their garage a long time

but he's been around the garage a lot longer than me but we're happy to be on here right on so

your first year working together then officially kind of as like the the spotter driver sort of

thing that you guys have going on there you probably have to have to build up I mean like you said

you've gotten to know each other for a longer period of time maybe than that but you got to have

a lot of communication skills and kind of trust and understanding between each other if like I

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