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I think that's the hardest part because you're just doing everything on spec,

which basically means that you're the only person who believes in you in that moment.

You have nobody else.

You're basically just saying like you're doing this because you want it and you believe in it and there's no

financial incentive yet.

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So maybe you are listening to this show today on your way to your real job or maybe

you're headed home or to another room because we're all telecommuting these days to work on your side

hustle or your second job or maybe even your third or fourth gig if you're a freelancer.

The point is I don't think anybody or at least very few people have just one job anymore.

It seems like so many people have their day job, but then they also have a side gig or they have a

passion project that they are hoping will one day turn into something really big and today we're going to dive into what it looks like to realize a dream while you're still working full time.

We're going to learn it all from somebody who has been there

who set aside those precious hours and slogged through it.

Jessica Goodman is the op-ed editor at Cosmopolitan. She's the author of the new book

They Wish They Were Us, which came out in August and has been called a modern day gossip girl but darker by Marie Claire and one of the

summer's buzziest reads by Entertainment Weekly.

The book has also been optioned for TV, and Jess will be serving in the role of executive producer.

Jessica, welcome.

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