Ep. 223 Our Existence as Protest with Caleb Gayle

The Stacks

Traci Thomas

Literature, Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Today we speak with journalist and professor Caleb Gayle about his new book We Refuse to Forget: A True Story of Black Creeks, American Identity, and Power. In our discussion of his career and American history, we cover Black people in the Creek Nation, forty acres and a mule, and what it means to be a citizen. We also ask why we are so consistently taught not to remember, and who benefits from our forgetting?

The Stacks Book Club selection for July is Season of Migration to the North by Tayeb Salih. We will discuss the book on July 27th with Elamin Abdelmahmoud.

You can find everything we discuss on today's show on The Stacks' Website: https://thestackspodcast.com/2022/07/13/ep-223-caleb-gayle

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0:00.0	All right, we are down to our last three cities for the live in the stacks tour, and if the first two stops were any indication, you do not want to miss this tour.
0:11.0	I will be in Washington, D.C. with Jason Reynolds on September 24th. I will be in New York City with KSA layman on September 25th, and I will be in Los Angeles on October 18th with three guests.
0:23.5	Yes, three guests, three of my favorite friends of the podcast, Rachel Lindsay, Chelsea Devantes, and Sam Sanders.
0:32.0	The show promises a night of big laughs, hot takes, and more bookish conversation than you could possibly imagine.
0:38.5	Tickets are selling fast, so head to the stackspodcast.com slash tour right now before they sell out.
0:54.5	Welcome to the stacks, a podcast about books and the people who read them. I'm your host Tracy Thomas, and today we are joined by Caleb Gail.
1:02.5	Caleb is a scholar, Northeastern University professor, and award-winning journalist, and now the author of a brand new book called We Refused to Forget, A True Story of Black Creeks, American Identity, and Power.
1:14.5	The book tells the story of a Native American tribe called Creek Nation, which two centuries ago both owned slaves and accepted black people as full citizens.
1:21.5	It examines the role of the government and white supremacy in the fight for citizenship, and the marginalization of black Americans since then.
1:28.5	It also looks at the what ifs and possibilities of belonging.
1:32.5	Our book club pick for July is season of migration to the North by Tayyab Salih.
1:36.5	We will be discussing the book on July 27th with Elamin Abdal Mahmoud.
1:41.5	Quick reminder, everything we talk about on each episode of the stacks can be found in the link in the show notes.
1:46.5	And if you love the show and want more of it, head to patreon.com slash the stacks to join the stacks back.
1:52.5	We've got bonus episodes, a super active discord community, monthly book club meetups, and more.
1:57.5	It's also a great way for you to show your support for the work we do on this very super duper independent podcast.
2:03.5	Head to patreon.com slash the stacks to join.
2:06.5	And thank you to two of our newest members, Benjamin Cruz and Rebecca G.
2:10.5	Also, of course, a huge thank you to everyone who is already in the stacks back.
2:15.5	And now it's time for my conversation with Caleb Gale.
2:24.5	All right, everybody.
2:25.5	I'm very excited today.
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