All right, we are down to our last three cities for the live in the stacks tour, and if the first two stops were any indication, you do not want to miss this tour.

I will be in Washington, D.C. with Jason Reynolds on September 24th. I will be in New York City with KSA layman on September 25th, and I will be in Los Angeles on October 18th with three guests.

Yes, three guests, three of my favorite friends of the podcast, Rachel Lindsay, Chelsea Devantes, and Sam Sanders.

The show promises a night of big laughs, hot takes, and more bookish conversation than you could possibly imagine.

Tickets are selling fast, so head to the stackspodcast.com slash tour right now before they sell out.

Welcome to the stacks, a podcast about books and the people who read them. I'm your host, Tracy Thomas, and today we are speaking with Ella-Meen O'Dell-Mock Moon, the Toronto-based Sudanese Canadian writer, cultural and political commentator, and the host of the podcast's popchat and podcast playlist.

Ella-Meen's new book is called Son of Elsewhere, a memoir and pieces, and it's about his coming of age and a place he likes to call Elsewhere.

Today, we talk about how Ella-Meen became black, his relationship to music, and the politics of problematic favorites.

Our book club pick for July is Season of Migration to the North by Tayeb Salee.

We will be discussing the book on July 27th when Ella-Meen O'Dell-Mock Moon returns.

Quick reminder, everything we talk about on each episode of the stacks can be found in the link in the show notes.

If you love this show and want more of it, head to patreon.com slash the stacks to join the stacks pack.

We've got bonus episodes, a super active discord community, monthly book club meetups, and a lot more.

It's also a great way for you to show your support for the work we do on this independent podcast. Head to patreon.com slash the stacks to join.

And now it's time for my conversation with Ella-Meen O'Dell-Mock Moon.

Alright everybody, I'm so excited today. I am joined by Ella-Meen O'Dell-Mock Moon, who is the author of Son of Elsewhere.

He's a podcaster, he's a buzz feeder, he's a writer, generally a human.

Ella-Meen, welcome to the stacks.

I love being introduced as generally a human. That is true. That's a big fact. That's a significant part of my identity.

I would say probably the majority of my identity is just that. But yeah, thank you.

Ah, I don't know. I don't know if that's the majority.

But for me, the majority of your identity is author of Son of Elsewhere, because that's what we're here to talk about.

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