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🗓️ 23 April 2025
⏱️ 76 minutes
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"Poverty plan hit for fraud, waste," reported the Associated Press in 1966. "Study says government waste is unbelievable,” insisted United Press International in 1983. "Beneath Trump’s Chaotic Spending Freeze: An Idea That Crosses Party Lines," announced The New York Times in January of this year.
It’s an argument that dates back decades, even centuries: Government is bloated, spending wastefully, and enabling widespread fraud and abuse. The only solution to this waste, fraud, and abuse is to root it out. Cutting salaries, personnel, or entire programs or agencies, it follows, will streamline government bodies, saving millions to billions of dollars.
But who gets to decide what’s “wasteful” in the first place? How are these concepts routinely racialized? What effect does it have on a public dependent on social programs and essential government services like safety inspections? And why should governments be expected to “save” money, when their job—at least in theory— isn’t to make money in the first place, but—again in theory—improve the welfare of its citizens?
On this episode, we detail the past and present of the “waste, fraud, and abuse” framing, looking at how it’s long been used to justify the degradation of essential social programs; mischaracterize governments as businesses; and weaken protections for workers, renters, and everyone else who isn’t a capital-owning member of the elite.
Our guest is Death Panel's Beatrice Adler-Bolton.
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0:43.9 | Poverty plan hit for fraud and waste, reported the Associated Press in 1966. |
0:52.3 | Studies says government waste is unbelievable, |
0:55.8 | insisted wire service UPI in 1983. |
1:01.1 | Beneath Trump's chaotic spending freeze, |
1:03.7 | an idea that crosses party lines, |
1:06.7 | announced the New York Times in January of this year, |
1:10.2 | 2025. |
1:11.6 | This is an argument that dates back decades, even centuries. |
1:14.9 | Government is bloated, spending wastefully and enabling widespread fraud and abuse. |
1:19.7 | The only solution to this waste, fraud, and abuse is to root it out. |
1:22.6 | Cutting salaries, personnel, or entire programs or agencies it follows, |
1:26.6 | will streamline government bodies saving millions |
1:28.8 | or billions of dollars. |
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