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🗓️ 20 March 2023
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Look no further than the comment section of this post/video and you’ll find knee-jerk answers to the question posed in this title driven by emotional reactions, that are justified after the fact by a poorly thought-out argument that is logically inconsistent. In the philosophy of sport, however, you go the opposite direction. You put forth a logically consistent case, based on established information, within the constraints of the argument. In this episode we chat with philosophy Ph.D. candidate at the Berlin School of Mind and Brain Adrian Kind, who recently collaborated on the article: “Is Bodybuilding a Sport?” with Eric. It is currently in peer review, but available as a pre-print for all to read. This philosophy of sport article by Kind and Helms is a rebuttal to another philosophy of sport article by Aranyosi (2018), where Aranyosi claims competitive Bodybuilding is not a sport, but rather an artistic presentation with sport-like elements. While Adrian and Eric didn’t prove Bodybuilding is a sport in their paper, they refuted the argument as presented. Tune in to learn about the specifics of this debate, and how a conversation typically reserved for Reddit plays out in academia, and why philosophy is actually at the root of all science.
00:00 Intro to the one (another monster episode) … and introducing Adrian
Aranyosi 2017 Body, skill, and look: is bodybuilding a sport? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11097-017-9513-3
Kind & Helms 2023 Is Bodybuilding a Sport? https://sportrxiv.org/index.php/server/preprint/view/270/539
10:44 Discussing the Aranyosi paper: what makes an “activity”, a sport?
26:25 The rebuttal to the takes on posing
41:55 The physical skill component of bodybuilding
1:01:13 The Art vs. Sport spectrum argument
Iron Culture Ep. 84- The Original Iron Sport: Gymnastics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_n5AiQvLzQ
1:24:00 Conceding that the physical skill involved in bodybuilding is displaying the body
1:33:40 Why is the categorisation of bodybuilding as a sport perceived as contemptuous?
1:49:03 Do you even lift? Future topics to discuss and closing out
Iron Culture Ep. 19- The Science of Hypertrophy (Roundtable) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw1LDc7_Hrc
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0:00.0 | Eric. |
0:01.7 | Omar. |
0:03.4 | This is it. |
0:05.2 | This is it. |
0:06.6 | This is the one. |
0:07.7 | I cannot believe the audacity that you have, Eric. |
0:12.9 | Well, you know what? |
0:14.8 | I didn't start the fire. |
0:16.5 | It was always burning. |
0:20.0 | Not since the world was turning, but at least since Sandow said, you know, what I want to do is I want to create a great competition in London and figure out who is England's most hunkiest hunk. |
0:33.0 | Yeah, exactly. |
0:34.1 | Eric, real quick, were you quoting Billy Joel at the start there? |
0:36.5 | Yeah, or nay? |
0:37.0 | Was that just, was that close? |
0:38.1 | We didn't start the fireer? |
0:39.4 | Yeah, it was 100%. |
0:40.6 | 100%. |
0:41.2 | Adrian, absolutely. |
0:42.4 | So let me kick them. |
0:43.2 | We're going to start, including the guests in the introduction. |
0:46.7 | Adrian, let me ask you a question. |
0:47.9 | I always find this intriguing to me, the cultural exports of, you know, various countries where we made the reference that |
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