We've got to unhyjack the system and get back to growing and eating wholesome foods and get the

palate back in touch.

Two things have gotten

into this more as we go. The flavors of wholesome foods,

whether it's fruits, vegetables, meat, products, dairy, have gotten blander and blander and blander.

At the same time, ultra-processed foods have become irresistible.

They've figured out how to do that, and so it's a double whammy that's really set us up for talk about a super hijacking and then we just have to look around and we see the obesity and-related diseases. That's a fact as we all know.

Welcome to Living 4D with Paul Check. Today's guest is Fred Provenza,

Professor Emeritus of Behavioral Ecology in the Department of Wildland

Resources at Utah State University.

Dr Provenza directed an award-winning research group that pioneered an understanding of how learning influences foraging behavior and how behavior links soil, plants, herbivores and humans.

That work culminated in a program called Behave,

an international network of scientists, ranches, farmers,

and land managers committed to integrating behavioral principles with local knowledge to enhance

environmental economic and cultural values of rural and urban communities.

Though Behave is no longer active, the principles and practices continue to influence

researchers and managers worldwide.

He is the author of three books and has published over 300 research papers in a wide variety of scientific

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