We do a couple rituals before we get started. These might seem weird. We'd love for you to help. You can bang on the table. You can repeat after me. You can do all this. Or you can watch. And here we go. What's up guys? Jeff and Jeremy here. Another episode of Five Minute Fatherhood. This question comes from Maggie in our homeroom community. She said, do you do anything differently when you invite unbelieving family members to be part of your Shabbat or Sabbath meal on occasion? You know, do you do different, do you do different explanations or do you just allow your regular routine to be a witness to them? Now, Jeremy, I'm interested to hear what you think. For us, I think this is a thing that actually, not just on Sabbath, but on like, I'm always, I, I, how do I say this?

I'm very sensitive to how other people are feeling specifically around religious language, tradition, the gospel, all these different things.

And so one, one tool that I think is very helpful is like, just be honest and like, it's, and like disarm them, right? And so like, and so like like I and then I think what that does is that actually frees you up then to be more honest or to do more kind of unashamedly what you want to do you know like even I got in trouble from a couple commenters the other day because I wrote this little I gave away a free book and a $20 bill and wrote like a letter in it and I just said it somewhere in like a mall and I just said you know whoever picks this up I want this to be for you wanted to encourage you blah blah blah but one little line in there I said like I said hey there's a lot of Jesus stuff in here you know and I said if that makes you feel weird then just get past that I think you'll still get some encouragement from the other stuff and some people were like why would you say that. You know, you don't want to skip over that. Like, they need to know. And I'm like, yes, I agree. But there's something about alleviating people's fears and disarming them that actually makes them hear you better anyways. That's right. Right. Or that even that comment in the letter might make them go, oh, like, well, who is this Jesus guy? Like, you know what I mean? So I think there's something about disarming that's really, really powerful. And so, yeah, back to the specific question. We do that on Sabbath. We have a lot of people on our home sometimes for Sabbath, different kind of levels of how they're comfortable with it. Are they aware of it? Whatever. And one thing I do is I'm just usually calling it out as it's going like, hey, this is going be weird to you, right? Or I'm going to say, hey, just, you know, just pay attention. Or like, if it's the song, I say, hey, this is a fun song we sing. You probably don't

need to know the words. Just bang on the. it out as it's going like, hey, this is going to be weird to you, right? Or I'm going to say, hey, just, you know, just pay attention. Or like, if it's the song, I say, hey, this is a fun song

we sing. You probably don't even know the words. Just bang on the table and you'll probably

fit right in, you know, like you just kind of like, I just kind of make it fun and disarm and hearted like that. And to me, that's just like, then it just moves on. And what it does then,

too, is it then also comes back to us and enables us to then be free in it. Because then what

happens if you're not communicating well, then enables us to then be free in it.

Because then what happens if you're not communicating well, then you start to hide or get sheepish or whatever when it's just like I literally just said that, hey, we're going to, we do a couple rituals before we get started. These might seem weird. We'd love for you to help. You can bang on the table. You can repeat after me. you can do all this or you can watch and here we go right like stuff like that like i just think

you just be honest and just kind of talk normal and be normal and things usually go normal. Yes. But yeah, I don't know what Jeremy. What would you say? Yeah, don't suddenly start praying with these and dows or like suddenly break into some kind of religious. Yeah. Like a lot of times we don't know how to just be at home. I just wrote about this. You know, if you guys are subscribed

to the Jeremy's Journal, the family team's email newsletter I shoot out every week. I talked about

the most and one of the coolest invitations I ever got in my life when I was 23 was to

to a Sabbath dinner when I was living in Jerusalem. And it was happening repeatedly. I was being

invited to people's houses. And what's really cool

about these kinds of observances is oftentimes people, they're just kind of curious about like,

how do you do things? What you can't do is with family, there's a little bit of a, there can be

a little bit of like, kind of like you, you guys actually should be doing this. Or there's, there's just really subtle little messages that we think we figured out better ways.

Or, I mean, that's, I think, where this can get really tough for, for unbelieving family members,

is if it ever feels preachy, if it ever feels kind of like you're coming down on them.

And so you have to really, like like ramp up the sort of vibe that, hey, we just want to share this thing with you guys we're doing. And, you know, and it's not exclusive. And it's just we're trying to just sweep, you know, sweep people into it, make it really simple, do a really good job, you know, explaining things. My wife, April's incredible. When we have a, you know, any of our Shabbat dinners, we have people that are new, she'll stop me, like, routinely, like, okay, what Jeremy means by that is, you know, like, like, they're, because I can be a little bit, you know, insensitive to, to, to this topic. And I think, I think me and April make a

really good team because she's much more. And so, and she has my permission to like stop me,

pause, help me, help us make this an experience that everyone feels like they're a part of. And so,

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