Hello, welcome to the Adam Ruins Everything podcast. I am your host Adam Conover.

This is the podcast version of my true TV show, Adam Ruins Everything.

If you haven't seen it, it's an educational comedy show where I tell you the awful truth

about everything you take for granted. And this is the podcast version.

And what I do here is I take the experts that we talk to on the show

for just two or three minutes and we talk to him for an entire podcast about all the

fascinating work they do and about the topic and all the details that we didn't

have a chance to discuss on the show.

Today's guest is Caitlin Doherty, who you might remember from our death episode.

She is an advocate for natural burials as opposed to those gross expensive traditional

burials.

She's also the author of a book called

Smoke Gets in Your Eyes and she is a licensed mortician. All that said, let's get to it.

Well I'm here with Caitlin Dody, who is...

Actually, how would you describe yourself?

You do so many things?

Well, I'm a mortician, I'm a death acceptance advocate, I run a group called the Order of the Good Death and I have a non-profit funeral home called

undertaking LA. Oh it's a nonprofit I didn't realize it is it's the only nonprofit funeral home in

LA that is not a synagogue or not connected to a

synagogue.

What made you want to start a non-profit funeral home?

Mostly a couple reasons, mostly because I wanted it, so the traditional funeral industry is obviously a for profit model

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