This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Coval.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

So today I am joined by Bob Pardo, Robert Pardo, Pardo Capital Limited. And Bob is one of those guys that, and I think this is going to be for a lot of my podcasts, a lot of the folks that I know in this world, Bob has been there, done that, still doing that, and has a world of experience.

And I don't want to necessarily, I can look at Bob's bio and I know he went to Northwestern,

and I know he was at the CME early on on the floor, and he's got an interesting note here,

and I'm sure he can expand on it, some early on experience with Solomon Brothers and John Meriwether.

So anyways, Bob, I want to welcome you to the show today, and I think we're going to have a fun conversation.

Well, thanks. It's good to be here, Michael. I always enjoy chatting with you.

So let me, let me, you know, I was just asking you off the air.

I said, well, you know, what was Bob?

Because everyone, everyone, see, we can look at your books.

You've got these, you've got these very detailed books out there about systems testing.

And everyone can find them on Amazon.

They're easy to find.

But how do you go from, what was Bob Pardo at eight years old, 10 years old?

What were you thinking?

What were your desires?

Like when I was eight years old, I think I told people I wanted to be an architect.

So what were you thinking at eight years old?

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