I'm Natalie Lou and you're listening to the baggage reclaim sessions.

Hello hello. How are you doing?

Today I'm going to be talking about why no isn't a dirty word. But before I get into that, I am feeling pretty excited because hello this is episode 199 next

week's gonna be episode 200 and I haven't previously really done like a full-on celebration of a milestone episode,

partly because after episode 99 I took an almost year long break.

And so the celebration of episode 100

was actually restart in the podcast.

So I wanted to do something a bit different this time so episode 200 is going to have my very

first guest something that I've talked about on and off for a while

and I'm finally going to make happen,

because actually thanks to lockdown,

we don't have to go into any extraordinary lengths

to go and do like a guest episode.

We're going to do it here at at home and it's going to be with

my husband M so I'm really looking forward to that. On top of that I'm going to do a couple of things to celebrate.

One of those will be a gathering on Zoom,

so you know, talk and a Q&A and a chat,

and I'm also going to do something on Instagram live.

So to find out deeds about that, go to baggage reclaim.co.uk.

forward slash 200 celebrations celebration. Okay. So on with today's show. So many people carry a level of shame, anxiety, fear, powerlessness, helplessness, and even resentment about having to say no.

Because so many of us have been socialized to believe that no is a dirty word, that we are being

troublesome and selfish and difficult and rude and too sensitive and inconsiderate and self-involved and not a team player

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