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This Podcast Will Kill You

Ep 199 Sleep Part 2: Predictably unpredictable

This Podcast Will Kill You

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Health & Fitness, Science

4.817.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Now that we know just how critical sleep is, we’re all making sure we get the amount we need, right? Unfortunately no. One-third to one-half of Americans are not getting enough sleep, according to public health guidelines. Why is that? Hypotheses abound, but many point the finger of blame at different aspects of modern society such as screen time, artificial light, a sedentary lifestyle. These narratives suggest that sleep in industrialized societies today is not just different but worse than in centuries past. Is that the truth? How did humans sleep in yesteryear, and what can that tell us about sleep today? In the conclusion to our sleep two-parter, we explore the many ways that humans sleep and the wide array of consequences when we don’t get enough (or too much) of it.

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:06.6

Hi, my name is Kelly. I'm a big fan of the podcast, so it's a real treat to be here sharing my story about sleep, or in my case, lack of it.

0:15.0

I was nearing the end of my final quarter at college, and I'd spent my finals week living off caffeine pills and no sleep

0:21.9

in an effort to cram for my tests. The day after my last presentation, I decided to go

0:26.8

cold turkey on the caffeine, just spend a few hours at my internship and then head home for some

0:31.6

uninterrupted napping. My internship, I could feel the heaviness of my week of all-nighters

0:37.3

pulling at me,

0:38.2

so I asked to leave early and got in my car to battle the early developments of rush hour traffic.

0:44.0

As I sat in my car, the stop and go movement slowly lulled me to sleep,

0:49.4

and the next thing I knew, I was jolted awake by a thud as my car had rolled forward and struck the Jeep in front of me.

0:56.5

Because we were going so slow, the only damage done to the Jeep was a cut in his wheel cover.

1:01.7

The driver was so nice and checked on me to make sure I was okay and then drove off.

1:06.0

Other than being incredibly embarrassed, I was fine, but my car, Betty, the cute little blue car I'd had since I was

1:12.7

16, had damaged to her frame and was totaled. Now that I'm older, I'm incredibly cautious of driving

1:18.6

fatigued. I was so lucky. My wake-up call didn't hurt anyone except poor Betty. ready....you know, The

1:47.0

The Wow. I mean, what a harrowing. What a harrowing. And also, like, relatable. I know.

2:14.5

Who hasn't stayed up way too late, many nights at a row. Way too often.

2:19.2

Yeah. I know. Terrifying. Glad you're okay. I'm sorry about your car. I know. I know. Kelly, thank

2:26.0

you so much for sharing your story with us. We really appreciate it. We do. Thank you so much.

2:30.2

Thank you. Hi, I'm Erin Welsh. And I'm Erin Elman Updike. And this is, this podcast will kill you.

2:36.1

Welcome to Sleep Part 2. Sleep Part 2. If you didn't listen last week or watch, you should because it's really great. You know, there's a lot of cool stuff. Pretty proud of it.

2:47.8

Absolutely. In last episode, we discussed sort of like, what is sleep? What are the different stages of sleep? A little bit about what sleep does for us and how we fall asleep, et cetera. We talked about sleep in animals. Very cute stuff.

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