What's up everybody? This is the Betray, the addicted, and the expert. My name is Brannon and I am the expert.

And I'm Ashland and I was the Betray portrayed. And I'm Kobe, the recovering addict.

What you're going to get is three unique perspectives on recovery and tools for hope and healing.

All right guys, let's talk about involving church leaders in your recovery process.

And the reason I wanted to talk about this was

it's so common for a couple when everything comes out,

the first person they go go and talk to is their

pastor their bishop their priest and they look for counsel there and guidance and

in no way do I want to get in between that

relationship with people I think that's really important I also think that someone's

spirituality is between it's between them and God and

and if part of that spirituality is involving church leaders that's not a bad thing.

However I want I want to speak to some of the the pitfalls and some of the dangers of of going to a church leader and

and some things that can happen with that.

Not saying that you shouldn't.

I think it's really helpful to go to a church leader.

Maybe just solely relying on that.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And so what I want to ask is, first off,

I want to ask you guys your experience with that

and how that was for you.

And then I want to share some experiences that I've heard and some horror stories

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