They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

Hey, how you do?

I'm all right, thank you.

How are you, David Hellard?

I'm good, Jed.

Did you take a bite of your food just at the very first way? It's the first thing I heard, it wasn't. I have been eating my bagel. But no, I didn't know, not the point, I'm not eating while we're doing it. This isn't a this isn't a Colin McCourt interview.

Okay, okay, that's good. That's good.

Well, we'll do about us. Jadies in a hotel, so there's a bit of background noise.

You know why. You know why. But how have things been? How's a 5K training plan going?

I just, everything goes so well until it doesn't like you have like some really really good

training weeks and then something gets in the way which is usually work that like derails it all

and you find yourself just all your time's dedicated to work yeah and you just and you just't fit it in. You can't fit in the stuff. All the stuff you do before. I had like an incredible couple of weeks of training. A whole, whole two weeks. No, no, no. I mean, like everything was going like, right. I was like hitting all of the the all of the stuff that i needed to do each

for for that couple of weeks yeah and you're actually seeing kind of improvements and it was

starting to feel really strong and actually thinking you know i'm really on track here whereas before

because before i've been building up it's not i haven't been doing as much speed stuff i actually

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