Hey guys, thanks for joining us for the debrief today. I'm here with some friends.

We're going to have a conversation about love, astrology, astronomy, the Enneagram, and you name it.

Should Christians do this? Should we be a part of this?

It's an incredible conversation. I think we learned a lot.

And so I think you'll learn a lot too as you navigate more and more people who are turning away from the church and turning to astrology. And how can you handle that as a Christian and what maybe do you need to know about it

to talk to your friends and family?

Research shows 2019, there was like a, what was it, a over $40 million rise in the use of astrology apps,

horoscopes, those kind of things.

Naturally with 2020, that all started to rise some more.

We're seeing culture kind of shift more towards a spiritual nun.

They're not claiming any kind of religion, but this deep interest in the stars, astrology, horoscopes,

all those kind of things.

What would you say to someone that is looking into astrology as a mean of accessing

spiritual?

How would you counsel someone through that?

Christian or non-Christian?

Let's start with Christian and then maybe go to non-Christian.

Yeah, so I would say, let's take a step back and ask why is there a rise in the use of astrology.

So I think that astrology bridges the gap that's right in the middle of religion and science.

And so I think especially in 2020, so I would say pre-2020, there's a disillusionment and just disagreement even with religion.

So all religions are bad, that's terrible.

So I'm going to turn to science.

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