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Lunt break.

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Hey, everybody. Thank you for listening to Marriage Therapy Radio. I'm Zach Bro. I'm here with Laura Heck. I'm actually here with Florida Heck in Laura's house. We've been working on a project. We're preparing for our workshop, the art and science of love, which is coming up in October. You can check that out at Dotman.com slash mTR. Today we're talking to Danielle Bettman, who is a parenting specialist. It's a pretty fascinating conversation. She and Laura kind of take the reins. Danielle's focuses on kids who are one to seven years old. Nine are 14 and 18, so I'm disqualified as you'll learn. Also, this is a woman who lives in Omaha, Nebraska, but who's never heard the song Omaha by counting pros, which blows my mind, along with many other things that she has to offer. That's a very cool conversation. Stick around.

So for our listeners, we've already been chit-chatting with Danielle quite a bit. So you said

you're in Omaha, Nebraska? Yes, I am. Holy moly. I've never been in Nebraska in my life.

You're not really missing out on much. No. I'm in Oregon. Zach is also in Oregon.

Listeners, this is, this happened. We were teasing the fact that Zach and I would be in the same place

at the same time. And in fact, we are. We are both in my home, but Zach is in my playroom and I'm in my

office. I like your house. It's a nice house.

Thank you. Do you have any food in this nice house? I fed you this morning. I made a burrito.

That's a joke. It's a veggie tails joke. Daniel, do you know veggie tails? I do.

Is Veggie tails just, is it a Christian platform? It's like, it's kind of Jesusy.

I think it changed a lot since I got created, but usually there's like a vital message in

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