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Provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton

EP:18 - GUEST: Glenn Greenwald: The Fall of John Bolton

Provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton

Scott Horton

News, History, Politics

4.7567 Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

If you caught the live show you know we had some significant audio trouble. We remixed the portions of the live show to enhance the audio as best we could. This version is significantly better than that version on the live tab of the YouTube channel. (Additionally, this version was cleaned up w/ the Podsworth app and re-released November 20, 2025. This version is crystal clear, clean, and level. ⁠⁠https://podsworth.com⁠⁠) What happens when you tug at the thread of a nation’s favorite story? We open with Daryl Cooper’s new MartyrMade series reframing World War II from the German perspective and explore why questioning the “Good War” myth shakes the foundations of America’s modern identity. If FDR, Truman, and Eisenhower are the real architects of the current state, then our sacred narrative doesn’t just sit in museums—it drives policy, budgets, and the way the press polices debate. Glenn Greenwald jumps in to break down the John Bolton indictment with the kind of specificity most headlines skip. We talk alleged Gmail and AOL spillage of crown-jewel secrets, how Iran reportedly exploited those lapses, and why the Espionage Act keeps crushing conscience-driven whistleblowers while sparing the powerful. From Petraeus’s slap on the wrist to Panetta’s Hollywood handoffs, we map a two-tier secrets system and ask whether this case finally dents elite impunity. We also trace Bolton’s role in wrecking the North Korea deal that nudged Pyongyang toward the bomb—proof that bluster can be more dangerous than it looks. Then we look south. Carrier groups, F-35Bs, Poseidons, Reapers, and Night Stalkers in the Caribbean don’t spell “routine.” The stated drug-war rationale rings thin when northern Mexico would be the obvious target. Oil interests, China’s footprint, and a familiar search for pretext suggest a risk of sliding into a conflict that won’t resemble Panama—more like a grinding regional mess with real costs and no clear gains. It’s the same pattern: narrative first, justification second, escalation third. Across it all, we connect the dots between myth, law, and power. Reframing history tests the permissions our leaders claim. Prosecuting Bolton tests whether insiders finally face the rules they wrote for everyone else. Posturing near Venezuela tests whether we’ve learned anything from the last twenty years. Join us, challenge the story, and if this conversation hits a nerve, subscribe, share the show, and leave a review so more people can find it. 👉 Subscribe for more honest, unfiltered conversations that push past the noise. 🔹 No safe spaces. 🔹 No corporate filters. 🔹 Just raw, informed, and fearless conversation. Provoked show website: ⁠https://provoked.show⁠ Darryl's links: X: ⁠@martyrmade⁠ ⁠https://subscribe.martyrmade.com⁠ Scott's links: X: ⁠@scotthortonshow⁠ ⁠https://scotthortonacademy.com⁠ ⁠https://libertarianinstitute.org⁠ ⁠https://antiwar.com⁠ ⁠https://scotthorton.org⁠ ⁠https://scotthorton.org/books⁠ ⁠https://www.scotthortonshow.com⁠ 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 ⁠https://streamyard.com/pal/d/4904399580430336 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Jamie Lang and Sophie Haboo have arrived on Disney Plus.

0:04.5

We're having a baby.

0:05.5

We're having a baby.

0:07.2

I've always wanted to be mom.

0:09.4

And we're bringing you on our journey through everything.

0:12.4

I have no idea what we're doing.

0:13.6

Thank you. I have more of an idea.

0:15.6

I think of it like a Tamagocchi.

0:17.8

At the end of all of this...

0:20.0

We're going to have a little baby.

0:21.8

Raising Chelsea, a Hulu original series streaming exclusively on Disney Plus.

0:27.3

18 plus subscription required T's and T supply. The

0:40.3

The Hey, welcome to this show, guys.

1:03.2

Hey, I'm Scott, and that's not Darrell Cooper.

1:05.3

That is Jay Burton filling in for Darrell Cooper tonight.

1:08.4

And I'm sorry, apparently somebody's at my door right as we're starting the show live, and so my dog's going crazy. But I'm just going to try to ignore that. And introduce Jay. Welcome. Thank you for co-hosting for Gerald Cooper. He's out taking care of a little bit of business tonight. I want you to tell everybody a little bit about yourself and your great show. Yeah, of course. Thank you so much for having me on. Scott. My name is Jay Burton,

1:31.2

host of the Jay Burton show. I post interviews a couple times a week. I've had you on. I've had

1:37.2

Darrell on, a lot of our mutual friends. So if you're interested, I'd appreciate y'all checking that

1:41.7

out on whichever podcast app you used.

1:49.7

Yeah, absolutely. And I had a great time on there, and I know that you did an interview with Daryl. I can't remember if I watched that or not. I think I did. But it was a fun show, and I know

1:57.4

everybody will like that. Is it, what's the handle? YouTube.com slash what?

2:02.4

Jay Burden, you'll find this.

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