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Hi, this is Josh Marshall. This is the Josh Marshall podcast.

Today we got a bunch of things we're going to talk about around the topic of this infrastructure bill.

And when I say infrastructure bill, I'm kind of talking about the meta infrastructure bill, which really what I mean by that is Joe Biden's infrastructure agenda.

The proposal that he, that the White House, then divided it up into the American Jobs Plan and the American Families Plan, which is sort of titles for what we've now come to call hard infrastructure and soft infrastructure.

Basically, the first being, you know, surface transportation infrastructure, possibly also the climate component of that, which, which can't feed into surface infrastructure, rail, you know, things to prioritize electric cars, stuff like that.

And then, and then soft infrastructure, which may also, you know, climate may come in there, but is more space is basically social safety net and social spending, the caring economy, stuff like that.

And, and then we have a second dynamic of that, which is this kind of two step process, the sort of, you know, linkage and and in tandem where what we have gravitated towards is a model where you're going to do kind of an infrastructure hard infrastructure mini bill that is bipartisan.

And then everything that you can't get, you know, Republicans and Democrats to agree on, you put that into reconciliation and obviously that at the issue there is this, you know, 60 vote set of rules and 50 vote set of rules, so you've got, you've got the big picture of all the things that Joe Biden proposed, which runs into trillions of dollars, you know, I lose track of all the different overlapping proposals.

But I think, you know, you're talking probably a good for and some people as much as $6 trillion of spending.

So we're going to get into all sorts of aspects of that and kind of like, is this is this bipartisan mini bill still, is that still happening? Was it ever happening?

You know, because we got in that whole thing like ever, you know, they have like, everybody's all excited and everybody, you know, they have a little, I don't know if it's Rose Garden, but you know, White House press conference and and then suddenly it turns out that they're all upset because he said he wouldn't vote just one of them and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And again, sort of like, was there ever an agreement? And is it really true that Biden saying what they all knew in advance in a, in maybe a slightly different way really kind of upset the apple cart and critically, again, we don't really know there ever was an agreement.

We had five Republican senators who participated in negotiating this. And I think we're pretty, you know, pretty openly committed. Yes, we're for this.

And they supposedly spoke for six other Republican senators who we never really quite with a couple of exceptions really got a clear sense that they were really on board. And if they weren't on board, the whole things moved because you need 10, at least 10 Republican senators.

So if that falls by the wayside as the whole thing done, is that mean, you know, does since mansion and cinema need, you know, need there the the bipartisan box checked.

Does everything fall apart? Well, we're going to get into all of that. And then we're also going to get into the fact that, you know, Democrats beg and pleaded for Republicans to have a Jan 6 commission that they would have veto rights over.

And they wouldn't. And so now Nancy Pelosi saying, okay, fine. We're just going to do a real investigation. So great. You had your chance to too late. And that's that I guess is going to get voted on this afternoon.

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