Ep. 174 – Scott Barry Kaufman, PhD
Metta Hour with Sharon Salzberg
Be Here Now Network
4.6 • 682 Ratings
🗓️ 10 January 2022
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
For episode 174 of the Metta Hour, Sharon speaks with Scott Barry Kaufman, Ph.D.
Scott is a cognitive scientist and humanistic psychologist exploring the mind, creativity, and the depths of human potential. He is the founder and director of the Center for the Science of Human Potential and the author of several books, including “Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization.” Scott is also the host of The Psychology Podcast, with over 17 million downloads.
In this conversation, Scott and Sharon speak about Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs and Scott’s revamp of the model in his recent book, “Transcend,” which was released in 2020. Scott discusses the metaphor of a sailboat to represent his model of self-actualization. Sharon asks Scott his thoughts about the overarching processes of moving from contraction to expansion in life and his approach to personal growth and transcendence from a modern psychological point of view. They also discuss the popular wellness trend, Toxic Positivity, and Scott’s response to this phenomenon, Tragic Optimism: the ability to find meaning in any form of suffering. The episode ends with Scott leading a short guided growth challenge exercise to bring the conversation to a close.
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| 1:47.7 | backslash Sharon. |
| 1:53.2 | Hi, I'm Sharon Salzberg, |
| 1:55.1 | and I'm talking today with Scott Barry Kaufman, |
| 1:58.3 | or SBK, as he told me, his friends call him, |
| 2:01.8 | SBK PhD. |
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