Ep 169 - Living in Denial w/ Pavlos Roufos

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2 • 970 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

The gang is back with returning guest, Pavlos Roufos, for a spicy discussion about ever-contentious pandemic politics and how the left should relate to it:

Why has SARS-COVID 19 and the state response to it caused such an uproar in parts of Europe and the United States? What contradictory functions does the capitalist state perform in class society, and how has this led to disaster? What is the attraction of denialism among the populist right and, increasingly, parts of the left? Is there a rational kernel inside the mystical shell of COVID conspiracism? How have the unvaccinated been made a scapegoat for the failures of the bourgeois state? And is there anything recuperable within the waves of protest and direct action against mandates and vaccines?

Even spicier bonus episode will be available for subscribers at www.patreon.com/theantifada to sign up today. Special thanks from all of us to our friends at Cured Quail for publishing the collective article in question: https://curedquailjournal.wordpress.com/2021/12/09/the-reality-of-denial-and-the-denial-of-reality/

Outro: Juice WRLD - Denial

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0:15.3	Hello and welcome to the Antifada. We have a full crew here again today. I of course am Sean K B here with Andy
0:17.3	Jamie. Yo and we are proud to welcome back third time threetime returning champion Pavlos Rufos.
0:24.8	What's up, Pablo's?
0:26.2	Hi guys, nice to be back.
0:28.5	It's great to have you back.
0:30.1	You've been on the show before to discuss your personal experience with an involvement in the
0:36.0	mass movements that arose out of the Greek debt crisis. You've also talked with us about the rise
0:40.9	of Sarisa and of course the aftermath of the Greek
0:44.2	working classes historical defeat in the last decade. Don't forget the Riot
0:48.7	Porn and the Riot Port. Excellent, excellent bonus content out there, the Audio Riot Porn episode for new
0:55.5	subscribers. You should definitely go and check that out. Good times. Today, Pablo's
1:00.1	back to discuss the capitalist state's contradictory pandemic policy and the equally
1:07.1	contradictory response on the part of much of the anti-capitalist milieu in Europe. The United States of course has seen the most fatalities from SARS COVID-19 in the world at the time of
1:19.1	recording estimated about 850,000 people.
1:23.0	And the nature of the virus in our state response,
1:26.7	these questions have been about as contentious
1:28.8	as anything over the last year or so.
1:31.1	So, you know, not just in society society at large but within the broader left. So he
1:35.2	thought it would be great to bring Pavlos back and talk about this issue. So we've
1:39.8	brought Pavlos here because not only he is a great friend and a great analyst of a
1:45.3	capitalist society and its contradictions but also because he was a participant in a
1:49.8	collectively written article that is making the rounds right now shall we say in the Greek
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