We need our pastors to step up to the plate.

I mean, this is, it's not going to be solved only by politics.

I think we've got to reprieve from a political standpoint right now, but we need Christian

Bible-centered pastors.

This is a calling upon the church to, from a mission standpoint.

If you think you've got missions that overseas, we've got it right here in our country and in our backyards and our public schools.

And that's what we need to go.

The seminaries need to get on board with us too.

Outstanding is a production of The Washington Stand where you can find news and commentary from a biblical worldview.

Welcome to Outstanding where we have critical conversations about the news of the day and the

ideas that shape us. I'm your host, Joseph Backholm, and this is yet another exercise in taking

every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. And as we turn the corner from 2024 to 2025,

a lot of people feel like, politically speaking, we may have avoided a disaster.

And maybe we did.

While we hope some things will improve with our public policy like more secure borders and perhaps a justice system that punishes crime and it doesn't punish people just for having differences of opinion. Our biggest cultural

problems we still realize don't have purely political solutions or maybe even primarily

political solutions. Sure, good policy can make it easier or harder to build strong civilizations,

but good policy is insufficient to build a strong civilization.

For that, we need good people. What are the keys from getting from where we are to where we

want to be? Now that we voted, what else should we be doing in that effort? That's our conversation today, and my guest today has some thoughts about it.

Kendall Qualls is the founder and president of Take Charge.

It's an organization that advocates for education reform and emphasizes the role of faith-based

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