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What The F Is Going On? with Mark Steel

Ep 165 with Ash Sarkar (Part 2)

What The F Is Going On? with Mark Steel

Carousel Studios

News, Society & Culture, Comedy, Politics

4.7888 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

This week Mark continues his conversation with Ash Sarkar. If you haven't heard the first part then do go back and listen now but for the rest of you here is the second half of the interview. Want to get access to the full video interview before anyone else? why not join us on Patreon? For £4 a month you can listen to the whole interview straight away – and you'll also be able to watch it! ⁠https://www.patreon.com/wtfisgoingonpod⁠  For media, press & guest enquiries please email mikey@carouselstudios.co.uk Follow What The F*** Is Going On? with Mark Steel on Twitter @wtfisgoingonpod  Follow Mark Steel @mrmarksteel   Follow Ash @ayocaesar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

We risk becoming an island of strangers. We will strive for the denopsification of his grave. Because you can't grow, can't grow, can't Yes, you can. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the dinosaurs. Under the EU, we weren't allowed to eat. I just don't get it. I just don't get it. What the fuck is going on? Hello know I'm saying everyone should be sure. What the fuck is going on?

0:23.6

Hello, I'm Marksdale.

0:25.6

Welcome to my podcast.

0:27.5

This is the podcast where we sit astride the landfill that is modern society.

0:33.7

And with the help of the greatest minds over the centuries, Descartes, Leonardo da Vinci, Plato,

0:43.4

Wayne Rooney, we ask the question, what the fuck is going on?

0:52.2

This week I'm going to be continuing my discussion with the very special guest Ash Sarkar.

1:00.2

Ash Sarkar wrote this book, Minority Rule, which was wonderful because apart from being brilliant,

1:06.3

it managed to annoy right-wing people and quite a few left-wing people as well.

1:10.7

And so all the prize is to Ash.

1:13.5

If you haven't heard the first part of the interview,

1:16.0

then you can go back and listen to the first part now

1:20.0

before coming back to where we are now with the second part.

1:22.8

Or you can just try and piece it together.

1:24.5

It's not scripted in the, you know, like a drama.

1:29.1

It's not like breaking bad.

1:30.4

You're not going to right go, hang on a minute, this bloke's, why is he dealing in crystal

1:39.2

meth?

1:40.5

And then, you know, go back later on and just find him as a teacher.

1:45.0

It won't be like that.

1:46.1

It'll all make sense.

1:47.5

But, you know, you can go back and listen to the first half if you want to.

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