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What The F Is Going On? with Mark Steel

EP 165 with Ash Sarkar (Part 1)

What The F Is Going On? with Mark Steel

Carousel Studios

News, Society & Culture, Comedy, Politics

4.7 • 888 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Mark is joined by journalist Ash Sarkar as they discuss anti-racist activism, Ash’s political family background, building solidarity through shared struggles, Labour under Starmer  - and Optimism in grassroots organising.  You can hear the second part of the interview in next week's episode – but if you can't wait, why not join us on Patreon? For £4 a month you can listen to the whole interview straight away – and you'll also be able to watch it! https://www.patreon.com/wtfisgoingonpod  For media, press & guest enquiries please email mikey@carouselstudios.co.uk Follow What The F*** Is Going On? with Mark Steel on Twitter @wtfisgoingonpod  Follow Mark Steel @mrmarksteel   Follow Ash @ayocaesar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

We risk becoming an island of strangers. We will strive for the denopsification of his grave. Because you can't grow, can't grow, can't Yes you can. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the dinosaurs. Under the EU, we weren't allowed to eat. I just don't get it. I just don't get sure. What the fuck is going on?

0:24.1

Hello, I'm Mark Still. Welcome to my podcast and a million welcomes to you. And metaphorically, may I lay down all the petals from the hanging gardens of Babylon for you to walk across towards this

0:39.1

podcast. It's a podcast in which we ask the age-old question, the question that has plagued

0:45.3

philosophers, scientists, musicians and biologists, gardeners, chemists, and indeed

0:53.2

sociology students over the years.

0:57.4

Footballers, golfers, baristas have all in their own way

1:02.6

woken up every morning and gone, what the fuck is going on?

1:09.4

This week, my very special guest, they're all special, all the guests, but this week, very special guest, is Ash Sarkar.

1:17.4

Ash Sarkar is someone who's written this book in recent times, Minority Rule.

1:22.3

And has over the last 10, maybe 15 years, been on the telly and the radio and all sorts of things advocating left-wing causes, should we say.

1:32.2

And not so much left-wing causes as the idea that we could live in a society that's a little bit more equal and fair than it appears to be.

1:42.0

And she's brilliantly articulate and brilliantly forthright,

1:46.0

as you will gather over the next few minutes as you listen to this.

1:50.9

So please welcome Ash Starkey.

1:54.0

Oh, what the fuck, oh what the fucking fuck is growing on.

1:58.6

Oh, this is such a joy because you just don't know if you listen to this.

2:03.8

You don't know the stress of week after week saying, well, you can't work out what the fuck

2:09.6

is going on unless you've got expert advice.

2:12.5

And then you introduce someone and go, oh, Jesus, they know even less than I do.

2:17.4

And I have to pretend.

2:19.3

It's all pretense, like so much of entertainment.

2:23.2

But not this week because Ash Sarkar is sat right opposite me.

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